Mark McKinnon is former chief media advisor to George W. Bush & John McCain, cocreator of Showtime’s The Circus, and current writer at Vanity Fair. In this episode, he joins Ben & Bob to recap the 2024 election and what they think might come next.

Click here to read Mark’s “An Open Letter to My Daughter,” published November 6, 2024 in Vanity Fair.

This episode was edited by Ben Sawyer.